Comments on: Apple’s developer relations regarding QC

By: anselan

anselan — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:57:46 +0000

I have implemented FDIV.NET’s patches into Quartonian Mixer so that either QTZ or MOV files can be used interchangeably. So I guess the problem can be overcome in an elegant solution.

By: dylan

dylan — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:01:48 +0000

Is it still the case that QC can’t load other QC compositions in 10.4.8? I haven’t seen the pre-10.4.7 version, so I can’t tell if the cool effects I’m seeing in Quartonian are due to the limitation being removed, or just the basic coolness of Quartonian even without recursive QC inclusion. Thanks!

By: smokris

smokris — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 06:45:59 +0000

I’ve now released a set of patches that allow rendering compositions, MIDI output, and provide alternative MIDI input. — see http://fdiv.net/2006/09/22/more-new-quartz-composer-patches/

By: fdiv.net » More New Quartz Composer Patches

fdiv.net » More New Quartz Composer Patches — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 06:36:44 +0000

[...] Image With Composition :: This patch loads a Quartz Composer Composition (.qtz) file and renders it to an Image. (This is intended to replace functionality that was removed with the Mac OS X 10.4.7 update.) [...]

By: momo_the_monster

momo_the_monster — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:31:28 +0000

I’m with you here. Just saw a message on the discuss list asking if there would be a way to play the sound track of a quicktime file soon – and the reply back was “Sorry, we don’t comment on future directions”.

I know Apple plays their cards close to their chest, but come on! If QC is truly a developer tool and will not be shined up for consumer use, then they could open up the plugins so we can make the extras we want.

Apple announced at WWDC the ability to plug QC patches into webpages and modify them using javascript. That’s neat and all, but as a web designer I could NEVER use it until it’s cross-platform.

QC is such an awesome tool that it vexes me to see it stagnate. Thanks for the chance to rant. Momo out.

By: cyberfunk

cyberfunk — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:19:40 +0000

I concur with Roger, I’ve tried processing and it is incredibly slow compared to Quartz Composer, obviously all the hardware acceleration helps

Java is notoriously slow, let alone a subset of Java written on top of Java.

In my experience MAX/MSP are pretty rock solid I think it’s when Jitter is introduced that things start slowing down…not that I have much experience with it…

Personally, I think that Quartz Composer is such an awesome tool it should be moved from /Developer to /Applications.

Let’s make it mainstream, hopefully, then Apple will stabilize the build and feature set. Even the stupid little things like the two octave MIDI offset are an annoyance in themselves…has this been fixed yet by the way? I haven’t been keeping up to date with QC.

By: roger

roger — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:54:01 +0000

well, wait until after WWDC at least. It’s a pretty safe bet that Leopard will introudce new Quartz Composer features.

Personally I believe the Cocoa/Bindings/QC combination has many advantages over slower interpreted languages like MAX/MSP so I’m not willing to give up yet…

By: steamshift

steamshift — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:30:42 +0000

hear, hear. I’m pretty much at the point of dropping QC and learning max/msp or processing or the like, primarily because I have no idea what Apple are going to do with QC and when; will they ever release a plug-in API? What about MIDI-OUT? And so on. I don’t want to develop cocoa applications. And not only are we not moving forward but ehrn you spend time reading the QC list, the answer coming back time and time again is; it’s not possible.

The ability of QC to leverage core-image and so on is awesome; but in order to be really useful for the sorts of things people want to use it for, a little bit of communication (and a plugin api) would go a very long way.